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23-01-2014 07:29 PM
Style for old/bald bloke - without looking stupid!
Despite joining recently I've picked up some good tips on here, some of which I've actioned already. However I could do with some more help and guidance. Please bear with me for quite a wide ranging post which I'll try to keep logical and in sections so you can comment on particular aspects.
First of all here's the raw material. I've not got many photos of myself but this is almost a bare canvas and shows my age and build, (warts and all):
BTW I'd been getting tortured for over an hour when it was taken.
For completness I am 59, 5ft 11, 12 stone, W32", L33", C40"
1 Style Strategy.
Bearing in mind my age, I don't think I can sail too close to the edge but am looking to put together a casual wardrobe that will give the impression of being well dressed.
Currently I spend too much time in a combination of jeans and technical outdoor gear which although sometimes practical, appears scruffy.
It's also crossed my mind that most of my clothing is in black, grey and navy so a bit of colour (probably more muted?) might be a good addition.
I have recently bought (after seeing the info on here - thanks) a navy pea coat, some light tan brogue boots and tan derby shoes which seem to go well with the black and indigo jeans I often wear.
In anticipation of more winter weather I am now looking for some tan cord trousers to go with the above pea coat outfit.
I've recently added a burgundy/blue check, and red/white check shirts but I think I need to add more colours to my shirts and knitwear.
Possibly some coloured accessories (scarf etc) might help.
To date as, usual for practicality, I've worn baseball caps in summer and a beanie in winter.
Given my strong Northern accent I have to date been reluctant to wear a flat cap although my wife thinks I should and I note that ICA likes them.
What do you guys think and what other styles might you suggest?
4 Hair style (ha ha)
I can't see that I've got much room for manouvre here.
I like it right down to zero but my wife thinks I look a thug so makes me have it a shade longer (no1)
I've seen somwhere that some kind of beard, tasche or glasses is a good idea for baldies. What do you think?
PS I normally wear glasses.
5 Buying jeans.
I normally wear straight/ relaxed jeans but I struggle to find decent ones which fit. Although ( for example) Levis 501s fit my waist they jam on my thighs as do many other makes apart from Marks and Spencer.
Any advice on makes or styles I might try.
I'm sorry if this a large/ vague post so please feel free to comment on any section of it. I look forward to your comments, advice and links to anything I might find useful.
23-01-2014 09:14 PM
1 Style Strategy.
I would try and find a way that incorporates the stylish elements of the outdoorsy type clothes you go for, but substitute them slightly away from the performance style and hiker variety to a more elegant and refined but in a practical approach. Thinking of hardwearing barbour wax jackets instead of technical jackets, wool jumpers (aran, fair isle, fisherman etc) that are warm, hard wearing and are naturally quite waterproof with character instead of fleeces etc. Country cords, tan chinos etc...
2. Colours - This is quite important considering that you have quite muted complexion (low contrast) so you will underwhelmed by high contrast colour coordinations. There are books (Flusser, Dressing the man) that have chapters and sections on this, even though they are referring to suits, shirts and ties, the concepts are still the same for everyday clothes colours. See :
Your Complexion: The Power of Colour | Philippe Perzi Vienna
3. I would experiment with hats of different styles, and see what suits you and your style. Bakerboy hats might be an interesting direction instead of a traditional flatcap (like the ones Beckham wears in the FB article of best dressed men of the year).
5. Jeans and trousers, as your athletic and have a trim waist although larger thighs you will have difficulties in finding pairs that will fit off the rack. Although some fits may work, try fits that are relaxed around the thigh but are quite tapered from the knee downwards. Not sure about makes and brands that might offer a good fit, but try a few, try the Edwin Nashville and looser fits, the ED55 to see if the relaxed but tapered from the knee works.
This link may help also:
Last edited by CharlesQ; 23-01-2014 at 09:21 PM.
23-01-2014 09:30 PM
You're in shape and tbh that's half the battle. I'd keep the hair short but maybe mess with some facial hair.
Flatcaps could be good but if you're northern I get the stigma so avoid them if you're not comfortable.
RE clothing, I'd get involved with some blazers, oxford shirts, cable knits and slim / skinny jeans. They can look really good on older guys who are in shape.
Also, see this article
Dressing Your Age: Fifties (50s) | FashionBeans
24-01-2014 08:58 AM
Originally Posted by Ivan Condor Aasllani
Also solid advice from CharlesQ.
Regarding the jeans, I too have quite big thighs, being an old footballer. Jeans with stretch is a blessing! Look for jeans with a couple of percent of elastane (a.k.a. spandex) in the material blend. It really adds comfort, and doesn't effect the durability. I think the 501's are 100% cotton. Have a look at the 511's.
24-01-2014 09:17 AM
Yeah I can't really wear jeans without stretch, always look out for it in jeans and smart trousers.
24-01-2014 11:10 AM
As I was reading, I was thinking of the articles for dressing in your 40s and 50s, so that's already covered. They will be useful.
Just keep things slim, muted and classic. Though you look great for your age, and are in good shape, so you could probably pull off a bit more of a youthful vibe.
It sounds like you don't want to dress too smart, so a good idea may be to have some smart items, but in quite a casual style. So, for example, you could get a brown, grey or green tweed jacket, but with natural shoulders, no lining, patch pockets etc.... This would then look great layered over nice knitwear (polo necks, shawl neck cardigans etc) and jeans/chinos/cords, with a nice pair of boots, like the tan brogues you have bought, or some desert boots in nicer weather.
Doing some analysis on your wardrobe would be useful - what have you got that you want to keep, what do you need to get altered, where are the areas of weakness etc? Break this down by category (outerwear, jackets, knitwear, shirts, t shirts, trousers, shoes etc). Compare that against the articles listed above, and Matt Allinson's "basics" series on here. This will then give you a wishlist of things you need to buy.
You're unlikely to be following current trends, so try to buy quality stuff that will last, if you can afford it.
Also, if your proportions are non-standard (slim waist, big thighs etc), then find a decent local tailor, and make him your friend.
Finally, don't be scared to post pictures of your outfits on here, for constructive feedback.
24-01-2014 12:19 PM
PS meant to mention grooming - I think skinheads have lost the "thug" connotation really, so don't worry about it. Also, beards don't suit everyone, but if they do suit you, then I think the bald/beard look can be great. Get some decent statement vintage-style glasses to top it off (I wear ray bans clubmasters, and will be getting some round eye tortoiseshell jobbies soon).
24-01-2014 02:08 PM
Gentlemen, Many thanks to all of you for your time and effort expended.
I was a bit worried that I might not have explained myself too well, but I can see you have understood my situation.
I shall read up, probably several times, and seriously consider all your input then take appropriate action.
I now feel more confident that I'll make more good decisions and less (probably expensive) bad ones.
Meanwhile if anyone else feels like chipping in please do.
Last edited by AndyWatson; 24-01-2014 at 02:26 PM.
24-01-2014 02:21 PM
something like a barbour or waxed jacket can be cool if you don't want to wear blazers
24-01-2014 02:24 PM
Welcome to the forum.
Firstly, I entirely concur with Ivan – being in good shape at 59 is half the battle. A lot of other men of that age have a pot belly which completes restricts their ability to carry clothing off in a manner which looks good.
Firstly, a practical point about your measurements. You look a similar(ish) build to me – I am 6 foot, weigh the same as you, have a 32” waist, 33” leg and am a 38” chest (I don’t have large thighs though) but am 36 years old.
Are you sure you are a 40” chest? Generally, your chest size is 6 inches bigger than your waist (although there are exceptions) and your chest in the picture doesn’t look 40” to me. I believe around 70-80% of men are wearing the wrong chest size, particularly with blazers and could easily size down for a better fit.
1. Style Strategy
The kind of balance I would be striving for would be modern, yet classic and refined. I think there are a number of items you could purchase that would indicate you know how to dress well (and would look smart) without being too young (and equally too old at the same time).
I would shop at retailers that specialise in quality, classic menswear that can cut across a range of ages – e.g. Jigsaw Menswear, Reiss, Austin Reed, Jaeger, TM Lewin, Hackett etc. I would be investing in some classic pieces that would lift your wardrobe and achieve that modern yet age-appropriate balance – e.g. a nice grey Tweed blazer, some navy chino’s, a burgundy cashmere or merino scarf, some fine knitwear (v-neck or crew-neck) for layering etc.
Before you add more colour, have you got the basics covered? With shirts for example, I’d suggest buying the best quality white shirt you can (will go with anything) and the same goes for light blue and navy. The light blue and white will layer under practically any colour of knitwear. With knitwear, I’d go for a fine v-neck in navy, grey and burgundy.
The one additional colour I would suggest if you want to branch out would be green (not bright of course). This is an incredibly under-rated colour and pairs exceptionally well with navy. It wouldn’t look out of place with you. I recently invested in some dark green chinos and a bottle green merino cardigan. Both work great as a different winter colour.
I am not a fan so will pass.
I’d keep it short (definitely) but at number 1 or 2 (not zero). I think this will soften your image a touch and work better with the kind of clothes you are buying.
Don’t buy anything distressed (e.g. holes, rips) and stick to simple classic jeans with nice washes and in a great fit. I would try and slim down slightly from loose fitting to either straight or slim (it’s far more flattering). Skinny would obviously be a step too far.
If you are struggling with your thighs then I’d suggest 3 things: 1) it might simply be a case of you getting used to jeans being snugger on your thighs (the first time always feels weird – I remember when I first started buying slimmer trousers and it took a little getting used to), 2) buying tapered fit (which will follow the contours of your leg) or 3) getting your jeans tailored.